Afternoon All,
I think the title says it all!! But I would like to get this sorted out before Sunday Morning ( Nothing like a bit of last mintue.com ) any suggestions or good recommendations with previous experience ?
Cheers,
P
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Lots of gyms also have Wattbikes too if you are a member - some I know are some Better gyms, Virgin, Nuffield etc. I test every 6 weeks as part of my programme on a gym Wattbike to see where I am and to plan the next training cycle.
Here's how you do the test on the Wattbike (NB this isn't the full wattbike warm up, you can find an example of that on the BC website) - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4C9u8UyGnVYZUUxcHBKYThFaTQ. This is the same test we did when you came to Virgin with me.
But the 20 Min test will be an estimation of your FTP, whereas the blood test that Dean is talking about is a more accurate assessment of your OBLA (onset of blood lactate), but, as Tony says, it depends what you want it for (and how repeatable you want it to be).
Guessing its for Lanza, tbh do you need the test in advance, will you be able to control your zones when rising out there? Or would you just want to be able to interpret the data afterwards?
Here's how you do the test on the Wattbike (NB this isn't the full wattbike warm up, you can find an example of that on the BC website) - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4C9u8UyGnVYZUUxcHBKYThFaTQ. This is the same test we did when you came to Virgin with me.
But the 20 Min test will be an estimation of your FTP, whereas the blood test that Dean is talking about is a more accurate assessment of your OBLA (onset of blood lactate), but, as Tony says, it depends what you want it for (and how repeatable you want it to be).
Guessing its for Lanza, tbh do you need the test in advance, will you be able to control your zones when rising out there? Or would you just want to be able to interpret the data afterwards?
I was just explaining what the difference between the 2 tests is. But completely agree, FTP is cheaper, 'easier' and more repeatable, and gives you all the info you need to set training zones and a training programme, and therefore more useful.
Tony said:
Using a blood test to determine when you hit OBLA is more scientific which is you are Chris Hoy and wanting to train at the absolute limit of your aerobic threshold may well be worth establishing and scientifically measuring in your training sessions.
However on the level 3 coaching course you will attend ;-) the guy from the English Institute of Sport who manages the training of those with "podium potential" pointed out to me that all you need for effective training at our level is to to know the aerobic and anaerobic threshold and to train regularly in the sweet spot below anaerobic threshold - which you hit when you stop talking and struggle for breath
He said this stood by his machine which he said cost more money than you might think reasonable
I guess I am over sensitive to those who seek to make participation in our sport ever more expensive as this has the effect of excluding people who would enjoy it and be good at it without the commercialism playing a role. People should not be misled into thinking a FTP test based on OBLA blood testing is a need to have at our level.
What is necessary is to establish a feel for what your own limit currently is and to be prepared to push that limit consistently three or four times a week to provoke a physiologicical response.
Throwing money at the problem will only make a very marginal improvement compared to consistent hard work - and as you point out avoiding injury.
How much are these FTP OBLA tests?
Lucy Hurn said:Here's how you do the test on the Wattbike (NB this isn't the full wattbike warm up, you can find an example of that on the BC website) - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4C9u8UyGnVYZUUxcHBKYThFaTQ. This is the same test we did when you came to Virgin with me.
But the 20 Min test will be an estimation of your FTP, whereas the blood test that Dean is talking about is a more accurate assessment of your OBLA (onset of blood lactate), but, as Tony says, it depends what you want it for (and how repeatable you want it to be).
Guessing its for Lanza, tbh do you need the test in advance, will you be able to control your zones when rising out there? Or would you just want to be able to interpret the data afterwards?
All these options look great, really appreciated.
I think I need to go for the Easy Watt Bike FTP Option at the moment as I am under sometime constraints ( Its either full on Lactate Levels OBLA Test or getting not getting a hair cut before I go away with everyone. )
Dean Thank you!! When I can see a bit of free time Ill ping you over an email when I can see a free slot.
Please feel free to kick the hornets nest after I leave this thread :-)
Cheers,
P
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