Anyone else had weird experiences with Balfe's?

So, my Giant Defy stays with me for at least another season...


Balfe's are a Windrush partner, but (or perhaps more so) I feel I ought to share this story. The lesson is, at the least, that it's often prudent to collect a second opinion.

I booked my bike in to fix a bashed brake cable 'collar' (the silver bit on top of the caliper) and get the gears spot on again after the bike was bashed being transported (slung in back of an Uber after two punctures in a row in the pouring rain). I opted for a service too, and dropped my bike off at Balfe's in Dulwich. 

The mechanic called me reporting £400 essential work for my bike to function. This included telling me that the back wheel was bashed oval, 'egged', and needed replacing or the gears would never work. I agonised with him over whether a four-year old bike bought for not much more was worth the cost. I missed a sprint tri, and was facing missing the Dun Run this weekend. 

You can guess what the main course of this story is... but first, here's the starter - I picked it up a week later (to possibly sell it for parts or a project). Well, the guy was so patronising that I'll not set foot it there again. I span the wheel and said, 'oh, there's not much movement' (at this point I genuinely didn't doubt the diagnosis) even so, I got a passive aggressive talking down:

 "The thing about bike wheels is that they're supposed to be ROUND" 

"Ok, gotcha. I'm just saying it's not that bad, not as much movement as I expected." 

"The thing about bike WHEELS is that they're SUPPOSED to be ROUND"

"Okayyyyyy…. anyway, I was wondering if the gears..." 

(Cutting me off)"The thing about gears is if you ride the bike in the lowest gear on the chainring and the highest on the cassette the chain will be diagonal and it won't run smooth"

"Errr… yes. (I pause, the guy is just glaring at me). I actually do know that. It just that your mechanic said the problem was..."

(Cuts me off again) "The thing about GEARS is if you ride the bike in the LOWEST gear on the chainring and the HIGHEST on the cassette the CHAIN will be at DIAGONAL and it WON'T run smooth"

I paid for the brake cable which I'd asked them to still fix. Which he said was £5 more than the mechanic had said when he called to say it was done. He rolled his eyes "Fine, right whatever". I paid and left. 

After my bike had laid around for another week, out of sheer annoyance I attempted to fix the rear derailleur myself… it ran fine. The chainring alluded me and I popped into Bon Velo. They adjusted the chainring on the spot for free and the bike was running as well as it ever had. The Bin Velo guy did mention to me "you might want to replace the chain and cassette in the next few months" I showed them the back wheel movement, "There's not much movement. (My exact words in  Balfe's) It will probably disappear if you get the wheel trued" 

I took it to another bike shop after that and they gave me exactly the same advice. Both quoted £60-70 just to replace an 80% worn chain and cassette. The gears were fine, the wheel was fine - less than a millimeter movement.

I called and raised it with the Balfe's manager. He apologised for the guys behaviour. I've not had an explanation about the quote for £400 essential work. 

Incedentally, Balfe's in Streatham have fixed some broken spokes for me before and were fine, and charming too. 

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Oh dear, this is partly my fault for encouraging you not to dump your Giant Defy....

but bizarre (and unacceptable) behaviour from the guy at Balfes in Dulwich. Good that you got a second opinion.

Hi Gary,

Sorry if you received patronising / rude behaviour. We shall all be talking about this and why it is not acceptable. We try very hard to be an inclusive shop, it is part of the businesses personality. I can't explain it so shan't try. I would like to say that it is out of nature for any of my staff to behave like this, I don't think it would have been intentional, but as I say we'll be talking it over.

Your bike was booked in for a general service, so we gave it a 3 hour time slot in the workshop to be diagnosed and worked-on. Your quote reflects the ideal outcome of every bike which is booked into our workshops for a general service; that it works and is reliable and will not let you down for at least six months. If it is a commuter this is important, if it is a weekend bike we take this even more seriously. It can have safety implications and if you spend £80 on labour plus parts you will rightly have expectations, that we want to meet.

A bit of detail:

rear wheel recommended: Rim ovalised, hard to true out. Hub rough, needed a hub service but was felt given wear and spoke tensions that probably best to recommend a wheel.

Chainrings: Fairly worn, enough to exacerbate premature wear on a replacement chain and cassette, also worn and in need of replacement, chainrings aren't cheap so we took the view if you do them now instead of as part of your next job they will pay you back by not wearing the new chain out too quickly.

The other bits were cables, bar tape, bottom bracket.

I believe the extra £5 charge was to do with cable outer, which we replaced when we tried to re-route the new cable through corroded and kinked housing. We un-wrapped your bar-tape a bit, fitted new housing and re-wrapped. It just reflected the time and parts difference, a little bit. We should have called you about it, sometimes it is easier to get the job done! Apologies. It wasn't just added though, there was a reason.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience Gary, I want our customers to come back. We value loyalty, and we try to earn that through doing good jobs which don't come back to bite us.

I'm very sorry we have unable to help you out.

All the best, Richard.

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